Skip to content
WatchtheDetails

Movement comparison

NH35 vs Miyota 8215

about 1.46 mm narrower; 0.35 mm taller. Can Miyota 8215 replace NH35? Only with changes to the watch or parts. Some fit figures are still unpublished, so this verdict is not confirmed.

Sources checked · How we source numbers
Movements to scale: TMI NH35, Miyota 8215Dial side and side section at one scale, hand holes enlarged 8:1. A TMI NH35: Ø 27.4, H 5.32, date 3H, crown 3H. B Miyota 8215: Ø ≈25.94, H 5.67, date 3H, crown 3H (vs A: Ø −1.46 H +0.35 mm).B Ø ≈25.94A Ø 27.4A 5.32B 5.67SIDE · HEIGHTS ON ONE BASELINEHAND HOLES · 8:1A hour 1.5 · minute 0.88 · second 0.198B hand holes —A TMI NH35Ø 27.4 · H 5.32 · date 3H · crown 3HB Miyota 8215Ø ≈25.94 · H 5.67 · date 3H · crown 3Hvs A: Ø −1.46 H +0.35 mm
NH35 vs Miyota 8215 to one scaleDrawing from data, not a photo · mm

Published figures

Differences are highlighted. Each number links to its source; an empty field says what is missing.

NH35 vs Miyota 8215 specification comparison
FigureATMI NH35BMiyota 8215
Diameterone side only27.4 mm1not published by Miyota
Casing diameterdiffers29.36 mm125.6 mm2
Size in lignesdiffers12‴311½‴4
Heightdiffers5.32 mm15.67 mm4
Jewelsdiffers243214
Beat rate21,600 bph321,600 bph4
Power reservediffers41 h642 h4
Accuracy (maker)−20 to +40 s/day6−20 to +40 s/day4
Lift anglediffers53°649°7
Hands and functionshours, minutes, centre seconds, date3hours, minutes, centre seconds, date4
Hacking secondsYes3Yes4
Hand windingYes6Yes4
Date windowdiffers3H6 · 3H, 6H, 9H83H, 6H4 · 3H2
Do not set the datediffers21:00–04:00921:00–01:007
Crown3H63H4
Hand holesone side onlyhour 1.5 · minute 0.88 · second 0.198 mm8only in Miyota’s drawing; not read yet
Dial feetdiffers1:36, 7:338 · 1:36, 7:3385:39, 10:482 · 5:39, 10:482
Dial centre holediffers2.05 mm82 mm2

Can Miyota 8215 replace NH35?

The direction matters: this checks a watch built for the first calibre with the second installed. Size alone does not prove that hands, dial, stem and case will fit.

Fits with changes· not confirmed
  • ≠diameterMiyota 8215 is about 1.46 mm narrower (25.94 mm vs 27.4 mm, from the size in lignes): it needs a movement ring or holder to sit centred.
  • ≠heightMiyota 8215 is 0.35 mm taller (5.67 mm vs 5.32 mm): check the room under the crystal and the case back; the hands sit higher.
  • ≠dateDate at 3H on both, but the window centre is 10.125 mm from the axis vs 10.55 mm: a dial cut for one will not line up with the other.
  • =crownCrown at 3H on both.
  • ≠dial feetDial feet at 5:39, 10:48 vs 1:36, 7:33: cut the feet and fix the dial with dots, or use a dial made for Miyota 8215.

Not published, so not checked: a millimetre diameter for Miyota 8215; hand holes for Miyota 8215.

Check the actual case, stem height and parts before ordering. Compare another pair.

Sources

Documents checked · Report a wrong number

  1. 1Time Module Ltd. — Watch Movement Specification and Drawing - Standard Mechanical Movement NH35A · pdf · read
  2. 2Citizen Watch / Miyota — CAL.8215 Drawing (p.1 Frame for Case 8215001, p.2 Indications for Dial 8215-33E, p.3 Setting Stem 065-212, p.4 Casing Holder 500-710) · pdf · read
  3. 3Time Module Ltd. — Product Line-Up - Mechanical (NH0&NH3); NH34/NH35/NH36 product blocks · html · read
  4. 4Citizen Watch Co., Ltd. (MIYOTA) — MIYOTA movement 8215 product page · html · read
  5. 5Citizen Watch Co., Ltd. (MIYOTA) — MIYOTA movement overview (catalogue table, 2 pages) · pdf · read
  6. 6Time Module Ltd. — Technical Guide & Parts Catalogue, Cal.NH3 Series (NH34A/35A/36A/37A/38A/39A) - Automatic Mechanical · pdf · read
  7. 7Citizen Watch Co., Ltd. (MIYOTA) — CAL.8215 Spec. sheet · pdf · read
  8. 8Time Module Ltd. — Watch Movement Specification and Drawing - NH35A (drawing pages read: Appearance-1, Hand Fitting, Hand Setting Stem, Dial-1, Dial-2, Hands) · pdf · read
  9. 9Time Module Ltd. — Operation Manual, Cal.NH3 Series (NH34A/35A/36A/37A/38A/39A) · pdf · read
  10. 10Citizen Watch Co., Ltd. (MIYOTA) — CAL.8215 Instruction manual · pdf · read